There’s been much discussion and debate about our original article about the Top 10 Armies in the World. First written in 2010, we’ve been updating it ever since.
Nearly every country in the world has its own army to protect its interests against internal and external enemies. Most countries like to boast of their military prowess, often claiming to be one of the strongest in the world. Not all can actually back that claim with data and numbers
In an effort to quantify the rankings of the top military forces in the world, we analyzed data on over sixty countries. We based this on the most recent data available at GlobalFirepower. This includes the size of defense budget, number of active military members, tanks and armored vehicles, aircraft and helicopters, and number of naval craft.
Additionally, we considered nuclear capability and recent operations, the latter meaning that the army actually has live combat experience.
We then assigned a weight to each of these components, and finally calculated an overall score for each country. In most places, this differs from the country’s GlobalFirepower rank.
After the calculations were completed, the top ten armies in the world became easily visible as the most powerful militaries in the world.
Most of these armies were involved in the major conflicts of the modern world. Notably, these include World War I, World War II and the Korean War. Additionally, many were involved in conflicts fighting for their own country’s independence.
The Turkish Army dates back more than 2,000 years, though the modern day military branches were founded in 1920. With a force of over 730 and a budget of close to $19 billion, it is solidly in the top ten military powers in the world.
It ranks fourth on the list for tanks and armored vehicles, estimated at just over 11,000. Ground forces are additionally supported by an outsize artillery. Out of the nations on this list, Turkey is currently the only without nuclear capability.
With very few exceptions, military service is required of all male citizens after the age of twenty, contributing to the large force and reserve size. After the U.S. and ahead of France, it is the second largest ground force in NATO.
The Turkish Army was involved in the Korean War, recurrent internal Kurdish conflicts, the division of Cyprus, and recently Syria. Its largest conflict to date, however, was the Turkish Independence War. In this confrontation, it fought Russia, Britain, Greece, France and Italy along its borders. It was one of the few larger powers to remain neutral until almost the end of World War II.
The British Armed Forces were organized in 1661 and have been involved in various conflicts including the Napoleonic Wars, Revolutionary War and both world wars. In fact, only 22 countries in the world were never invaded by British forces.
The British Army has had a significant presence in Northern Ireland and the Balkans. It stood beside the United States in the Gulf War in the 1990s. The army is a powerful force in the ongoing Global War on Terrorism after the attacks of September 11, 2001.
The active duty force of the British military is over 190,000 strong, making it the second largest army in the European Union behind France. The U.K. has a defense budget of over $51 billion annually. Of the top ten military powers, it has the smallest number of active duty members but the fourth-largest budget, behind only the U.S., China, and India.
There are three branches of service. These are the Royal Navy, the British Army proper and the Royal Air Force, also known as RAF.
With nearly 750 aircraft and helicopters and around 5,500 tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery, it is a viable force and an unwavering ally of the United States.
The Pakistan Armed Forces were founded in 1947, and comprises three service branches. It succeeded the former British Indian Army after the country gained independence the same year.
Pakistan’s military history includes recurrent conflicts with its bordering neighbors of Afghanistan and India, the Gulf War and Mogadishu, Somalia in the early 90s.
The country is part of the Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC). As such, it has been active against ISIL and other terrorist groups. Pakistan has also served as an ally to the United States in the Global War on Terrorism. It assisted in the fight against both Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and along its borders.
At the same time, the army maintains close ties with the Chinese military.
This volunteer army consists of an active duty force of over 650,000 personnel. Additional reserve forces are another 550,000 strong. Together, they make the Pakistan Armed Forces into one of the largest armies in the world.
Pakistan’s defense budget is around $11.5 billion. This may be the smallest budget of the top ten military powers, but still far exceeds the defense budget of most other countries around the world.
While on par with U.K. for naval craft, Pakistan boasts several hundred more aircraft and helicopters, over 9,000 tanks and armored vehicles, and a much larger amount of artillery pieces.
Israel maintains a conscript army. It is the only country in the world that requires military service from both male and female citizens with few exceptions.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were founded in 1948, but trace their roots to several paramilitary organizations active against the British while they held Palestine. Today, the IDF maintains an active duty force of over 170,000. In comparison, its reserves are enormous, evaluated at around 450,000.
Its fleet is fairly small, but the IDF can field considerable airpower and over 13,000 tanks and armored vehicles.
The Israeli military history includes the Arab-Israel War, the Six-Day War and numerous conflicts with Lebanon, the annexed Palestine, and frequent operations against Iran. As a whole, it is one of the most battle-tested armies of the world.
The United States remains one of Israel’s largest and closest allies, giving the IDF preferential access to new military technology. Israel’s defense budget clocks in at fully $20 billion.
Since its struggles during the World Wars, France does no longer enjoy the reputation of a military superpower. These perceptions aside, the numbers tell a different story.
France has a military of over 360,000 strong across the army, navy, air and space force and paramilitary branches. This makes it the largest army in the European Union by numbers. It is unique in letting foreign nationals serve in its forces – in the notorious and elite Foreign Legion. Unusually, the country’s police also form part of the French Armed Forces.
Compared to its one-time hereditary rival, the British Armed Forces, it commands more craft across almost all categories. The exception are some naval classes and artillery pieces. Its budget, however, is smaller than the U.K.’s, at $41 billion.
The North Korean People’s Army was established in 1939 and has an impressive size of more than 1,250,000 soldiers. When reserve unit numbers are added to this, estimates are more than seven million soldiers could be activated if needed. This makes the North Korean forces potentially the largest in the world.
Major conflicts in North Korea’s history are the Korean War and the Vietnam War. Tensions between North and South Korea still exist today. Technically, the conflict is a frozen one – it never officially ended between the two.
Its defense budget, at $1.6 billion, is nominally small. Much of its economy, however, is prepared for military use along a total war doctrine. Additionally, North Korea is a relatively close, though erratic, ally of China.
North Korea has confirmed its nuclear and chemical weapons capability in recent years with threats against various countries. This especially includes the United States, mainly for its alliance with South Korea. Over the last decade, it has also emerged as a cyber-war force to be reckoned with.
The Indian Army’s roots go back, with only minor interruptions, to the Stone Age. Today, it is the largest all-volunteer ground force in the world with nearly 1.5 million active duty soldiers. Reserves make up a force an additional 2 million strong.
India has never had to institute a draft to staff its ground force. The Indian Army – overlapping with the British Indian Army – was active in both world wars. Subsequently, the Indian Armed Forces fought in conflicts for the country’s own independence. Border skirmishes with Pakistan are common in its history.
The Indian military consists of three branches as well as several paramilitary units, and operates on a budget of more than $61 billion. While its aircraft and helicopter as well as tank and armored vehicle numbers rank it solidly in the middle of the list, it has a relatively small naval fleet. India also has more than eighty nuclear warheads in its possession.
Russia has undergone numerous changes throughout its military history. This history dates back all the way to 863. The modern day army – the Russian Ground Force – arose in 1992, following on the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Previous Russian military organizations, including the Red Army, saw combat in regional conflicts, both World Wars and numerous Cold War operations. Before the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, it was one of two superpowers in the world. By this point, it had surpassed the United States both in terms of the number of soldiers and nuclear weapons.
The Russian Ground Force draws its soldiers through a military draft. In principle, all male citizens between the ages of 18 and 33 serve for a period of 12 months. There are, however, many reasons for exception and deferral, and bribery is common.
Russia currently has over 1.2 million active duty military members and 2 million in reserves. It operates under a comparatively slim budget of more than $48 billion dollars. In terms of finances, only India, China and the U.S. are bigger spenders. Though its air force and ground capabilities are larger than China’s, the latter has been gaining rapidly, and China possesses a larger navy.
Russia also has the largest number of nuclear warheads in the world – nearly 8,000. This stock, though, is aging, and not all of it is combat-ready.
The People’s Liberation Army of China is the largest military in the world in absolute numbers. It numbers nearly 2.2 million soldiers, with a reserve over 500,000 strong. After significant cuts in forces a decade ago, numbers are again increasing.
The Chinese Army arose in 1927. It was active in the Sino-Japanese conflict, World War II, and the Korean and Vietnam wars.
While technically service is a necessity for all men over the age of 18, China has never had to draft soldiers. There have always been more than enough Chinese men who have volunteered for military service to their country.
It has the second largest defense budget, at nearly $240 billion – a full $100 billion more than a decade ago. This corresponds roughly to the combined budget of all previous countries on this list. It also houses nuclear weapons, with estimates putting the number at around 350.
The United States military’s history dates back to 1775, where it arose out of rebel forces fighting the Revolutionary War. With over 1.4 million on active duty, it now has the third largest active duty force ranking behind China and India.
However, the defense budget is what really sets the U.S. apart from all other countries on the list. With a budget of over $750 billion, it exceeds all other military budgets on this list combined by nearly $250 billion, and China’s by over $500 billion.
The U.S. Army and its special forces have participated in every major world war, the Korean War, Vietnam, the Gulf Wars, and leads the Global War on Terrorism.
The modern day Army is an all-volunteer force, though drafts have been used for long periods. It maintains numerous permanent posts throughout the United States as well as Germany, Italy, Kosovo, Japan, Korea, and other countries.
Ranking only behind Russia in the total number of warheads, the U.S. has the largest number of active warheads in the world.
The U.S. also has the largest number of aircraft and helicopters by far with just under 14,000. It’s still comfortably ahead of China in the number of tanks and armored vehicles. Its air dominance also shows in its fleet, which is smaller than China’s, but features numerous aircraft carriers and supporting craft.
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where is french army ? wht is the source of information i dont think your post is authentic.
PAK ARMY IS THE BEST ARMY EV,,,PAK ARMY WON THE BARTTLE OF TOUGHEST ARMY IN THE WORLD
india defeated pakistan twice even u guys say u can defeat any1
The only battel India won was 1971, through exploitation of a civil war based in Bangladesh. India got its ass kicked every single time in 1948, 1965 and even in 1962 by China. It had even lost the proxy Kargil War. Its only the Diplomacy that manages to save the Chaotic face of the Indian miliatry that has been involved in countless atrocitties.
Haaa.... Complete crap, we are at least loyal to our enemies too.. Unlike your army training militants to destroy us like cowards... Do whatever y'all can, y'all can never defeat us... Poor chaps... Why is that your army cannot control the militant groups in Pakistan now?
Pakistan never had even the slightest shades of victory in Kargil. Pakistan is known for its act of cowardice by firing artillery near the borders, remember it's not far off when India teach Pahistan a lesson. And that will be so hard pakistan succumbs without even getting time to resist.
At Edwin:
Pakistan kicked Indian Butt in Kargil and kicked it hard! While the Indians were shouting for attention, we had to pretend that the soldiers were actually Kashmiri Freedom Fighters; till Bill Clinton's administration came to help India and pressed Pakistani Government to call back the operation.
Sadly, this isn't a forum for :-( "Top Cry Byabies" :-( , otherwise India might have actually made it!
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HAHAHAHA!
LOL at Divyakumar: Indian army is not even loyal to its own people…. They committ crimes wherever they go, even in their own states like Kashmir, Assam, Bihar, Gujrat…..so on….
“You can fool someone some of the time…. you cannot fool everyone all the time”.
The only reason USA and NATO still support us is because of our support to their fight against terror. Yes, there are some anti-state elemets, but everyone knows Pakistan has real stakes in the war and is fighting against the same criminals.
By the way, please DONOT confuse Al-Qaida and Taliban with the Freedom Fighters of Kashmir. The later are a much older group who only has interest in securing independence from YOUR daily atrocities. You really need to get of Indian text books son. They are worthless.
Plus, your media is even worse.
Pakistan is always spent lot of money on defence , which is given by USA . But one thing pakistan forgot that indian army go inside pakistan at once , if they capture karachi or lahore there is no pakistan today. Indian fighting with courage , we attack from front , not from backside like pakistan did many times. History tell the truth story of wars between India and pakistan.
You cannot fund a nation's army for 60 years..... Please we are not Israel. yes, Pakistan army does acquire U.S technology every now and then.... the same way Indians are reliant on Russian tech.
Indian Army attacked Lahore and Sialkot in 1965 and Sialkot and Karachi harbour in 1971. But they failed to conquer anything and got their ass kicked in both wars. In 1965, the attackers ran for cover when they couldnt sustain the onslaught of Pakistani army and left all ammunition, artillery and even tanks behind.
So.. Yes, we do enjoy kicking your "backside" all the time.
excuse me Indians can stop your water supply by cutting off your the flow of rivers from Kashmir by which your country will become a cold desert
Ok.... So you intend to join the top army ranks by cutting off a country's water supplies. HAhahah! :-D
Jesus...What century are you living in? Haven't you come out of caves yet. And.... you are planning to join the U.N as permanent member... with this kind of attitude.... LMAO
Not only is it inhumane.... it is also extremely stupid. What do you think.... with all our water reserves... we'll die of thirst.... Sh*t! We will drink your blood if we have to!
@ Insane Nab:
U enjoy kicking from back ? haha terrible butt lover.
Yeah permanent member in UN. Stupid fuc*ers cant even have day dream. Even US officials just now announced Pak as the capital country of terrorism. Count down starts beggars. Even for Floods paks (begged) got cores of money from India & US. Is that rite man?
LOL at MC….. Now that he can think of nothing…. he would resort to stupid bashing that would make no sense whatsoever. Typical Indian attitude. Ya…. Floods we begged for money…. just like India begged after the Tsunami! And guess what? the generous world answered!
There are definitely more beggars in 1.2 BILLION Indians than 165 Million Pakistanis. Some estimates suggest that more than 65% of your people live below the poverty line.
By the way, what does that even have to do with Top 10 Armies and Indian war losses. Love getting off the track! dont you …? eh?
Indian Armys is worlds best army & if the pak people think India won wars with diplomatic sport they r living in folish world becoz India have the power to set pak & others on their knees.
Indian Army is always havey on pak& pak losser think india won wars with diplomatic sport.
@ nab 65% poor in INDIA real joke...
http://www.news-world.us/pics/2010/08/22/60-worst-countries-in-the-world/
not much as ur's. U r unrepairable Sorry truth is really cant hide.
Have u seen Common Wealth games? Could pakistan can do a single cricket tournament? No way 90% above are under poverty line and the whole country is begging money from the US and weapons from China & US. :D :D
you have no idea what u r talking about...
I agree with Sameel. MC makes no sense whatever. Alas, What can a man do against such relentless stupidity!
Olympics, Common Wealth Games and Cricket...... CRICKET! Thats what the Indians want to discuss on a forum for "Top 10 Armies of The World"!!!
Talk about Low I.Q!
hey u did u want proof for india's army power then look at the wikipedia.. we r the 2nd place in paramilitary forces and 4th in army/airforce/navy... well we produce bheesma,brahmos,HAL tejas,several missiles ourselves.. could u say even only one invention by the pakistan army. we send several own build satellites.. did u sent????? india kicked the fuc*ing pakistan a*s out of the world.....
I have had it with "Shitty-Pedia". Any moron can post/edit anything he wants in there.
Post some real links if you are man enough (and please save me the trouble of looking at stupid articles in Indian newspapers or the ones written and edited by lame Indians like yourself!)
@ nab! See this stupid.Its not from Wiki. Real sites every porkies to see.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
About tournaments and poverty u mention this while ur ars*s got fried up! haha And i ve mentioned with proof!
wait a minute everybody knows who won in kargil........... pakistan force were so scared after the war they were not even wanting to join back their force.................
India defeated pak in 1947, 1965 and 1971 CONVINCINGLY, despite pak being suported and aided by America, thia proves how pathetic and weak your army is, and we don't need diplomacy to save our face. You need to hide the fact that your country is a failed state and hotbed of terrorists.
india has actually defeated pakistan three times 1948,71,99
so please do some research before commenting again and has never been defeated not even by china
we shouldnt be talking about this anyway. hundreds of soldiers die in every war and if and hundreds of mother cry each time that happens. so please we should just pray nothing like this happens again
Actually you want to believe in this crap!!!! you pakistani's begging US for the money !!!! actually can we call you as a "beggar army"? India is the 10 th economic country in this world ... you what 200?
We fight for independence,
We live for peace,
We shoot for bad man
We kick for peace
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hello.....about wat freedom are u speaking about...wat's Pakistan after all...it belonged to India once dude...u're speakin as if we've invaded ur territory...u can't just claim tat...Kashmir's ours....never dare to snatch it
why people like you are soo much ignorant?? lolll,,, open your eyes , and stop crying power cut, darkness
why are you so happy ....i dont think so your chines...ha ha
dear if all indian started pissing on ur country then u country will vanish from world map ........................hahahaha .......think if we use our weapon then what happen .............
Well Said Nabeel. India is very professional in boosting negative propaganda against pakistan.
@nabeel....ua so ryt nabeel.....i am a kashmiri and i live quite near the old airport road kashmir.....the funny thing is indian gvt and army are so stubborn that they wont admit thr shortcumins no mattr wat....i hv myslf seen loads of dead indi army men( who wr killed in kargil war yrs bk) being secretly transported to old airport and burnt thr...even thr statistics of indian soldiers dead in the war are not true/authentic....
the indian media claim of so called victory in kargil war is a big sham!!!.....we bein kashmiris known evry bit of kargil war story!!.....all we did those days was sitin in frnt of tv,watchin an indi news channel(for ENTERTAINMENT) and rofl lmao at thr CLAIMS!!!...
@NABEEL
I have read almost all your comments and you claim that Pakistan had won all the wars with India and it was always India which started a war.
I did some research and found out some interesting things, why is there a rivalry between India and Pakistan and what were the results.
Now this is a chocolate, eat it if you can. I don't think you can claim these facts to be wrong as I have mentioned them with the International documents and precise dates of events.
1947:
Pakistan attacked Kashmir which was then a princely state and the prince with and intention to secure the stable future of his people joined Kashmir to India and the document of evidence is the “Agreement to Accession”. India responded by pushing the Pakistani invaders. It is true that India invited UN for a settlement but the UN split the Kashmir state into two and drew the Line of control. The battle is believed to won by India as Pakistan was the major sufferer but in reality the battle was a draw with considerable victories on both sides.
1965:
Pakistan started the operation Gibraltar by sending in forces to Jammu and Kashmir. It is like in the height of winter both Pakistan and India removes forces at many inhospitable places in the mountain ranges.Pakistani leaders believed that India, which was still recovering from the disastrous Sino-Indian War, would be unable to deal with a military thrust and a Kashmiri rebellion. India reacted and launched a counter offensive on Pakistan. Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam in reply , invading India’s Chamb-Jaurian sector. In retaliation, the India’s Army launched a major offensive throughout its border with Pakistan, with Lahore as its prime target.the Indian Army met with success in the northern sector. After launching prolonged artillery barrages against Pakistan, India was able to capture three important mountain positions in Kashmir. the Indian Army had made considerable in-roads into Pakistan. India had its largest haul of Pakistani tanks when the offensive of Pakistan’s 1st Armoured Division was blunted at the Battle of Asal Uttar, which took place near Khemkaran. The biggest tank battle of the war was of the Battle of Chawinda, the largest tank battle in history after World War II. Pakistan’s defeat at the battle of Assal Uttar hastened the end of the conflict. India lost 3500 soldiers and 175 tanks and Pakistan lost 3800 soldiers and 190 tanks and 100 tanks were captured by India. When Pakistan had lost almost all its defenses India could have easily taken over Lahore and Islamabad but due to internal political factors in India and pressure from the United States and the UN, made India to stop the army’s movement. Pakistan was forced to sign the Tashkent agreement stating that Pakistan had lost the war and would move back the pre-war positions.
1971:
An independence movement broke out in East Pakistan which was brutally crushed by Pakistani forces. Due to large-scale atrocities against them, thousands of Bengalis took refuge in neighboring India causing a major refugee crisis here. In early 1971, India declared its full-support for the Bengali rebels, known as Mukti Bahini, and Indian agents were extensively involved in covert operations to aid them.
India won the battle . Pakistan lost over 200 tanks, more than 9000 soldiers and 40 aircrafts compared to India which lost only 200 men, 80 tanks and 26 aircrafts. over 90,000 Pakistani military personals were taken as war prisoners by India and the independent state of Bangladesh was created. Again Pakistan had to sign the Simla Agreement to avoid further attacks from India.
Siachen conflict 1984:
India launched Operation Meghdoot in April 1984. The entire Kumaon Regiment of the Indian Army was airlifted to the glacier. Pakistani forces responded quickly and clashes between the two followed. Indian Army secured the strategic Sia La and Bilafond La mountain passes and by 1985, more than 1,000 square miles (2,600 km2) of territory, ‘claimed’ by Pakistan, was under Indian control. The Indian Army continues to control all of the Siachen Glacier and its tributary glaciers. Pakistan made several unsuccessful attempts to regain control over Siachen. In late 1987, Pakistan mobilized about 8,000 troops and garrisoned them near Khapalu, aiming to capture Bilafond La. However, they were repulsed by Indian Army personnel guarding Bilafond. During the battle, about 23 Indian soldiers lost their lives while more than 150 Pakistani troops perished. Further unsuccessful attempts to reclaim positions were launched by Pakistan in 1990, 1995, 1996 and 1999, most notably in Kargil that year.
India continues to maintain a strong military presence in the region despite extremely inhospitable conditions. The conflict over Siachen is regularly cited as an example of mountain warfare.
Kargil 1999:
Pakistani paramilitary forces and Kashmiri insurgents captured deserted, but strategic, Himalayan heights in the Kargil district of India. These had been vacated by the Indian army during the onset of the inhospitable winter and were supposed to reoccupied in spring. The regular Pakistani troops who took control of these areas received important support, both in the form of arms and supplies, from Pakistan. Some of the heights under their control, which also included the Tiger Hill, overlooked the vital Srinagar-Leh Highway (NH 1A), Batalik and Dras.
the Indian Army quickly mobilized about 200,000 troops and Operation Vijay (1999)|Operation Meghdoot]] was launched. However, since the heights were under Pakistani control, India was in a clear strategic disadvantage. From their observation posts, the Pakistani forces had a clear line-of-sight to lay down indirect artillery fire on NH 1A, inflicting heavy casualties on the Indians. This was a serious problem for the Indian Army as the highway was its main logistical and supply route. Thus, the Indian Army’s first priority was to recapture peaks that were in the immediate vicinity of NH1a. This resulted in Indian troops first targeting the Tiger Hill and Tololing complex in Dras. This was soon followed by more attacks on the Batalik-Turtok sub-sector which provided access to Siachen Glacier. Point 4590, which had the nearest view of the NH1a, was successfully recaptured by Indian forces.
In many vital points, neither artillery nor air power could dislodge the outposts manned by the Pakistan soldiers, who were out of visible range. The Indian Army mounted some direct frontal ground assaults which were slow and took a heavy toll given the steep ascent that had to be made on peaks as high as 18,000 feet (5,500 m). Two months into the conflict, Indian troops had slowly retaken most of the ridges they had lost;according to official count, an estimated 75%–80% of the intruded area and nearly all high ground was back under Indian control.
The Indian Army launched its final attacks, as soon as the Drass subsector had been cleared of Pakistani forces the war ended.India resumed control of all the territories lost.
nearly 527 Indian soldiers were killed and 700 Pakistani personal and 3000 Mujahideen fighters were killed.
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I know you wont trust me an Indian. So watch the Pakistani media reports and Interviews you will know better.
I’l give you link to one of such Pakistani media records, you can find much more on the web.
the truth of India pakistan war:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exAlTqrfRa4&feature=autoplay&list=PLA7606AC300D1230C&lf=results_video&playnext=3″
pakistan can never win a war against India:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WotQngKDJbU&feature=autoplay&list=PLA7606AC300D1230C&lf=results_video&playnext=2″
Now learn the real fact and then comment.
I don’t call Pakistan as sitting ducks, you are a powerful nation but don’t make false claims that ” Pakistan won wars on against India and kicked Indian asses and India is no match to Pakistan” and such other stuff. there has never been a history where India has yielded to Pakistan ever. Pakistan needs India to keep its economy growing and India needs Pakistan as a friendly neighbor.
Pakistan never relies on its army alone!!!every citizen is a fighter,and its the thing with islam that you dont care how big in numbers ur enemy is!!!!you just face him right away untill one day he vanishes.....although india had faced a shamefull defeat in 1962 by china on the issue of ladakh,i think they should try their luck against srilanka now may b there is a possibility......and indians just a suggestion,dont forget islam ruled over you for centuries,numbers never helped you then nor will they in the future......
Nabeel, your info is inaccurate and biased, Pakistan lost every battle each time...and it was pakistan that started it ech time
@nabeel. NATO & USA support you because they know you cannt defend yourself from terrorist. if your army was strong then why ur soldiers droped weapon. your heaven karachi was just to become hell if cease fire was not anaunced. India was not ruled by muslims or maratha they were just indian. Not like urs terrorist also muslims & victim dieing are also muslims. Palestini are better than you cowards, they are fightin for fredom with much stronger contry but not using terror.
okay that I have to agree with Nabeel!
Nabeel me and you are deffinetely friends and plus you are exactly 100% correct. And we are friends and brothers because we are from the same religion. Well these are the countries I am from Germany, United KIngdom, Russia, And last but not least Pakistan.
i am with indian army. india defeated pakistan 2 times. pakistan canot defeat india wthout help of china .indian army has better equipment the pakistani army. indian airforce is powerful than pakistaniarmy. india has intercontinential missile agni 5.india has takenout pakistani army from kargil
study the history , then write something in this type of sites.
no yaar.... india is always a winner. pakistan did'nt won a single war against india
HINDUS ARE THE MOST COWARD NATION IN THE WORLD ...proved by even scientist who look dna's...while Muslim Dna's confirm their courage and bravery....u can see the example of afghanistan...America + allied countries are there for more than 10 years..yet they been Fu*cked by Afghanis....the whole battalion at once....+ .....GAY HIND
'India won a glorious victory against Pakistan in the 1971 war. It was the first decisive victory in a major war in centuries. And it was won singlehandedly, in the face of opposition and threats from a majority of the UN member-States, including a superpower u.s.a and china. Every Indian patriot felt proud of this glittering chapter in the nation's history.'
pakistan........ a country which is gifted by india........ they don't have any status to stand up there own...
Pakistan is is birth place of terrorist.....
they use born terrorist like egg factory do........ ha ha ha ha ha ha
have you forgot the surrender of one lac pak army in 1971
my brother nabeel no body won the battle of 1971
We Indian's do not want war we want peace and brotherhood but u Pakistanis always started war and then suffered. Your Pakistani army surrendered in 1971 and it was the biggest surrender of more than 90,000 soldiers. And in other wars both side suffered great loss but u suffered more. Plz tell me your e-mail id (account) NAMEEL i want to tell u something personal. And u don't have knowledge about Muslims in India they are happier than Muslims in Pakistan.
haha India only won 1971? LOL if India lost the other battles then u wud have Kashmir by now which u don't have it, and u couldn't have an inch of it after 1948. here take a look at this video by pak media on 1965 and 1971, here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkYFl1NL5M listen carefully: "FAKE VICTORY DECLARED IN 1965 WAR BY PAKISTAN" here another video by pak media on kargil war, wat really happened when India brought 2 lakh soldiers to fight, watch all parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9TS_ddeEg truth about 1965 war... wat really happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exAlTqrfRa4 here take a luk on who started all wars, it was Pakistan who started all wars and LOST all wars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rGVpiWH-QI STFU, Pakistan cant defeat Bangladesh now, we cut pak in half in 71 war, ur coward joker army surrendered without a fight, 93,000 coward jokers surrendered after raping bangla Muslims in East Pakistan, Mukti Bahini called for help to india, india had to send its forces to stop this. and here 2 more videos, Pakistan can never win a war against india: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFpB0PSnoz0 pakistan military cant match indian army, by pak deefnse minister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPV0x2bUig&feature=related
no victory.... for pakistan in history...
typical paki nonsense...u cant even feed your people and talk abt sophisticated weapons..k,,lets assume we lost all wars but dn y is it stated at the pak's millitary forum page that it lost all wars to india and kargil ended up with a cease fire.general ayub khan sent the army to capture kashmir but he couldnt,when u cnt complete ur objectives hw cn u call urslf winners.
and frst stand on ur feet.u dnt have proper economy nor education or standard of living.india in every sense is far ahead than pak in terms of economy,trade,standard of living,millitary,intelligence and science.go to youtube there are many videos of paki diplomats acepting this facts and asking paki youth to not repeat the past mistakes..
i want to tell you nebeel its your country lied to you ,,
pak looses all wars with india,, note it dude, Pak military always lied about his defeat
lolllllllllllllllllllll who said pak is best army????
:P
u g0nna kidding with me?pak is only suisidial contry!!!!!
plz ,try to understand truth ,dont trust your politics .untill now pakistan never defete india .even your officials "(who is brave) agree that.,,,it is better to admire ,,,,,,we both have our own problems.....better be brothers ...my friend ,MY INDIA,AND UR PAKISTAN .....
WHAT ABOUT BALUCHISTAN MY DEAR FRIEND.,PAKISTAN MAKE BOMBS IN KITCHENS
It is alittle stupid to insult country's on this. Every country has nearly been to war no country is the best nor worse as every time a war starts alliances do come in and help. Also Divyakumar what Army are you on about? The Pakistan Army is only where it is today because of the country's that decided to help you. You do have a right for your opinion but when it is wrong, you shouldn't judge people.
hey every one speciallly indian liers we won 1965 war kargil but not the 1971 if we would have lost wwe couldn't have been exist .
oh!! poor nabeel get your brain above your*** or Pakistan army oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey guys he is comparing the Indian army and the Pakistan army first get your country above the poverty line then talk
We live in indian militarily occupied kashmir where indian army has committed many genocides killing of innocent kashmiri's we know how brave indian army is it takes only one Lashkar-e-toiba mujahid to make indian army run for their lives, cry like babies and wet panties.And you shameless indian dogs talked about kargil war let me clear it you indians where defeated and killed to that extent that your then defence minister George Fernandes did a coffin scam your indian soldiers body's where lying there like stones your then PM had to plead for help from USA.
india wins the kargil war with paksitan, india wins the every war with paksitan
but i dont belive paksitan army is 10 its like 15 or 20
Well, you talk about 1948 - Indian army drove out the razakars(storm troopers sponsored by pakistani army) within months but being a responsible country' head Pt. Nehru approached U.N. ,but the belligerent Americans (because of India being a socialist state) ,but it took the side of Pakistan and declared India agressor. In 1965 - Indian Army entered lahore(check the tashkent confrence). In 1971 -India liberated Bangladesh(nobody needs a proof). In 1999 - it was rudimentarily a terrorist infiltration in which pakistani army was involved later, pakistani army even retorted to accept their soldier' dead body such a fine gesture of patroitism. Now India is the third fastest growing economy ,World' 9th largest economy with approx.$2 trillion GDP ,an unemployment rate of 4% (America' unemployment is 7%). Pakistan , a country ruled by the nexus of Army and militant group, first time in 60 years elected government completed full term incumbent, every day a blast in one of the major cities of Peshawar, Islamabad ,Rawalpindi etc. ,terrorists infiltrated in the rawalpindi atomic warhead centre , Lashkar-e-jahngvi carries out organized killing of shia people(Mr. JInnah was by the way also shia), conflict between Deoband and Wahabi' in sunni religious group ,U.S. ,the so called strategic ally of pakistan, carries out drone bombings in area arond Quetta and other tribal areas, Osama bin laden got a refuge in Pakistan(A citizen, though rightly, killed by foreign country in Pakistan making a mockery of Pakistan' sovereignity at least nobody can do this in India i.e. we are safe from formal foreign attacks). Beleive me the list is very long it will take atleast a book to give the whole facts about how Pakistan is still a medieval country.
Dude, Whatever you say.
See the rankings,you would get to know which Army stands high.
Get it?
its a humer only>>>>>>>> we ha Allah's help
LOL at Divyakumar: Indian army is not only loyal to its own people.... They committ crimes wherever they go, even in their own states like Kashmir, Assam, Bihar, Gujrat.....so on....
"You can fool someone some of the time.... you cannot fool everyone all the time". The only reason USA and NATO still suppor us is because of our support to their fight against terror. Yes, there are some anti-state elemets, but everyone knows Pakistan has real stakes in the war and is fighting against the same criminals.
By the way, please DONOT confuse Al-Qaida and Taliban with the Freedom Fighters of Kashmir. The later are a much older group who only has interest in securing independence from YOUR daily atrocitties. You really need to get of Indian text books son. They are worthless.
Plus, your media is even worse.
Pakistan don't know how many terror plot in there own country . Within 10 years time pakistan will desytroy by there own jihadi.
@ prashant: Yes... we have been hearing the same rhetoric for the past 60 years. Before, it was Indian who would destroy us in 10 yrs. Now its the jihadist militants....
Fact remains that we kick both your butts even under toughest conditions and terrains, be it Rajahstan Desert, Runn of Kutch marshes or the rugged mountaineous Tribal Terrain of Pak-Afghan border....
Pakistan's birth and survival both originated from the " Anti- India" concept, whereas India is in existence for centuries. Dont forget that. We are a tolerant nation, the army does not routinely stage coups and execute democratically elected PMs and presidents. Pakistan does it, till date India has been restrained by US and other global powers not to attack Pakistan even after the repeated provocations, like the Parliament attack and Nov 26 attack in Mumbai. ALso- we never ever have attacked FIRST. We only retaliate in defense.
@Indian: Typical Indian Rhetoric. This is so lame.... always accusing Pakistan of your own misdeeds.
First of all, India never was one country. EVER! It was always a group of didfferent countries in the subcontinent which were ruled by various sultans, rajas and maharajas. The very name "India" is not Indian. It was given to you people by the Greek/Macedonian conqueror Alexander the Great. The name took its origin from the river Indus... the very river that flows through Pakistan today.
Now that we are done with a short histroy lesson... lets get down to bare facts.....
Both the Interpol and Pakistani govt. has been requesting the all cock-sure India to provide evidence of involvement in the Mumbai terror plot.... These very documents Indians have failed to provide while continuing their stupid media bashing against Pakistan. This leads many to believe of RAW's (indian intelligence agency's) invlolvement in creating a 9/11 style senario to gain massive international support against Pakistan for its own twisted purposes.
I dont know about you. But i certainly won't accept the rule of loosing Indian army that looses every war it fights (always saved by India's diplomats) and upon that is accused of countless atrocities against its own citizens (the only things you people are tolerant against are the crimes and atrocities of your own army and govt against minorities... low-caste-Hindus, Christains, Muslims, Sikhs and the like!).
Moreover.... this is certainly not a forum for democracy vs. dictatorship. For further information please Read the top article again!
If RAW hav the capability and that much of cruality to plan 26/11 pakistan by this time would hav been wiped out. Even 9/11 have evidence and assumptions that CIA has involvement, but 26/11 nothing against RAW, all fingers from entire world pointing towards u people. Can you provide any thing about Indian involvement? :D please stop your BLAH BLAH ... snail brain
nice defending debate which is doing by pakies... with some black hole facts! .. :D :D
@ MC: "Black-Hole"...?
big black hole in your arse hole!
@nab: butt lic*rs haha.. is it yumy?
@ mcm: Dunno! You tell... You (Indians) are the one who think cow-dung (and cow-urine) is holy!
Hygene, Asthetics, Culture.... Ha... Crap!
@ nabeel: unhygienic creep always love bts the above one nabeel, who just have a creepy way of sh*tin on himself and feeds on others sh*ts. Snail brain, u r perfect snail characterized. Check how snail feed!
:)
To all Indians.
Hey we have half or a part of Kashmir we have taken by force. Can you get it back from us.
There are almost as much Muslims in India as in Pakistan. So Allah would most likely take a neutral stance in case of a India-Pakistan war.
But India hosts almost all religions on earth, so speaking of god's help, India is superior just like in any other way.
Haha ha ha ha ha :)
I don't understand why do you bring out religion and gods in a discussion on weapons and military power. More over Pakistan is not following Jihad so no question of Allah's involvement. It is only supporting the terrorist's Jihad with an intention to protect its borders, acquire Kashmir and avoid Indian influence over Afghan.
Pakistan is neither an Islamic welfare state nor a social welfare state and not even a communist nation, Its a federal republic and a Nation security state which politically has no place for Allah.
I am a Muslim @ the same time I am a INDIAN.
arguing like loooser every time,you pakistani needs to try for 'dono time ki roti' only.you paki are not in position to discuss anything about war/army/etc.for great indian army pak is hardly a matter of few seconds dear, map of pak is change like hahaha understand ?
Indian army forced cowards from terrorist Pak army to a world record surrender of about 100,000 troops, which resulted in the liberation of B'desh from Pak tyrrany.
We gave a new lease of life to Bangladeshis, and thus they once again acknowledged it, by honoring Indian army, in a grand ceremony in Dhaka.
The most dangerous enemies of Pak, are the Islamic/Jehadi terrorists, coupled with Army/ISI, and no one else.
Dear Pak brothers wake up to this brazen reality, lest you perish.
Email: drkartikaypandey@gmail.com
@arjun your army cannot complete even arjun tank and you talked about poverty
1. around half of worlds poorest live in india.
2.Worlds biggest slum is in mumbai india.
3.95% india's wealth belongs to 4% of total population.
3.one top country's where daily thousands die becoz of hunger.
4.one in four girls in india are raped.
5.many worlds biggest scams happen in india.
6.one worlds most corrupt nations.
7.almost 75% of india's population lives below poverty line.
and many more yet to come.
INDIA IS HAVING WORLDS BIGGEST POPULATION OF POOREST PEOPLE
Please don't be ignorant.Have some knowledge. Pakistan attacked India in 1965 supposing that we would be weak after 1962.General Ayub khan tried a rebellion in Kashmir with a war. The plan by Pakistan failed miserably.
Even Taliban threw your army out of Swat valley and you say you are strongest?
While the whole world was blowing trumpets about our victory in Swat Valley, you were obviously sleeping......
The very same way, a number of nations actually congradulated Pakistan upon successfully defending its broder against Indian troops in 1965.
Ayub Khan planned conquest of Kashmir, which he couldn't. Meanwhile, Indian army attacked, got its ass kicked and lost a number of territories which you later got back in the "Tashkent Agreement" under Russian supervision.
The only good part of your govt. is diplomacy, your military doesnt count for anything!
LOL! like i said, get rid of your media and watch something worth watching.
lol.. swat valley in control of talibans ?? loll, your knowledge is soo poor, like u think Indians ever defeat Pakistan..
Hooo. Pakistan army won swat valley? huh? You idiots will believe, not the real world.
SWAT Valley Win, was perfect drama,
with Taliban, to help the Top Terrorist commanders to escape and killed innocents in name of Terrorists to convince NATO and US.
* US forces predicted that it will be a tough game for the military
* Paki army done it with out much effort. How? You r are trying to say that Pak army is more efficient than US marines? haha
* http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/pakistan/northwest-pakistan/swat_valley/index.html It says "The Taliban, however, mostly melted away without a major fight. Signs abound that the military's effort has been less than decisive."
* http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/pakistan/northwest-pakistan/swat_valley/index.html says that "The military has also failed to kill or capture even one top Taliban commander." "Very disappointing"by ur Pak politician, Aftab Ahmed Sherpao.
*Gr8 Pakistan army can even capture or kill any of a top commander of Taliban who all controlled SWAT valley? Only evidences are un-identified dead bodies(Human rights organization got reports of missing ordinary civilians, who are killed for evidences, as terrorists).
ABOVE ARE REAL FACTS ABOUT SWAT VALLEY.
Even you loose always why you people go cursing ur government. FUNNY! Banish and throw your gvt with out back bone and give rule to military, you can't! rite? It will stings at u as done b4 and just done to civilians in swat valley.
If Tashkent Agreement” was under Russian supervision, then Pakistan wont get a hand full of soil from Kashmir. One more thing you fool, the Kashmir was captured by Pakistan, by banishing all the agreement with Kashmir king, just after Independence 1947-48. Kasmiri king signed the treaty with India and asked the help, and we got engaged, fried up fu*kin paki military and support there and captured 3/4 of Kashmir. UN interference to stop the war, lead to creation of LOC, means Line Of Control, according to status.
1965 ur Ayub khan balls got fried up and had fled to save his f*kin mustache. :D
@nabeel and every pakies see how u loose in 1965 and how United States betrayed u.
US library Congress Information- 2nd paragraph should be read by pakies http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)
You cried and yelped for International pressure also from US side to save your butts. At last Russia came to help for cease fire along with UN and a Agreement avoided a Huge Pakistani failure to comparatively small one. Check the history. Enjoy loosing :D
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/world/asia/28swat.html?_r=1&ref=swatvalley
To be honest pakistani army fought the battle of swat faster than NATO who is fighting from many years
ha ha complete crap.....Mr Mujahid..ur one man can defeat 10 men..!!! r u cazy..if tat was very true...ur army rankin would be in first place ain't in 10th
despite everything I love pakistani people because in our independence war I remember from history books, pakistani women send their gold teeth for our independence war. Even Pakistan is the first government that recognized Turkish Republic first. Selamun Aleykum my brothers...
you guys drink cow--urine for your bloody stone statue bhuduman
Hay guys I'm an Indian and probably the only person posting sensibly here.
Pakistan used to support Taliban but now its against it. Yes Pakistan won the Swat valley. But even today ISI has links to Taliban. Pak govt. is running one way, the army the other, and the intelligence agency has no defined direction.
@Nabeel
A number of nations congratulated you for successfully defending Lahore not the border, by the time of Tashkent agreement India had already taken away 712 sq km of Pakistani territory. The Indian army was just a mile away from Lahore and the war ended as USA called for a cease fire to protect the residents of Lahore.
And it is also true that Pakistan never executed any of the terrorist leaders. Pak has only caught a few and released them.
@gkm3n
Pakistani women could have not sold their gold teeth because Pakistan never had a freedom movement and Pakistan never existed before 1947. In 1946 Indian national congress won the majority and framed the govt. but the Muslim league argued that they had to be given power as the minority party. This lead to the separation of Pakistan.
Pakistan was formed with a notion that Indian is a hostile place for Muslims but as for today Muslims in India live a better life than Muslims in Pakistan(both economically and ethnically), Not that Muslims don't face any insults from other majority but not the extent that you imagine and at least they don't face it from the rest of the world.
@everybody posting here
We do thing cow is a holy and why not?
Its provides milk which is one of our important food. Its urine and dung have anti bacterial properties, and neutralizes bad odor. Its a natural cure to many small and big diseases. Don't you eat the flesh of cow, or will you not eat it just because that flesh is from the animal's ass. Its not just cow, we think that every animal and every plant is holy, this thought has been implanted by our fore fathers so that humans may respect the elements of nature. You certainly wont know this because Islam didn't even exist when Indian sanathans(today called Hindu Bhraman) were writing theories in science. Probably you were hunting goat in the gulf deserts in those times.
Pakistan captured half of Kashmir but not from India. India didn't even posses Kashmir in by that time. In turn India capture the other half of Kashmir from Pakistan by pushing the Pakistani army away. Pakistan had captured 230 sq miles of Kashmir but India Captured 712 sq miles of Paki land. Tashkent agreement made both countries return each other's territories but even Today Indian holds Scichen glacier which is deemed as the toughest battle zone on earth. India had won all the wars with pakistan, the only war lost was with China.
When India fought the wars the world was against us but still we won and proved our might
pak army is the best in the world and for your information pak army is succesfull in swat vallay and all other wars and you see US and nato both are loss with new technology and you are kid for us *WAQAR HUSSAIN SAGAR* NARA-e-TAKBEER {ALLAH HOAKBAR} SALLOGAN OF EVERY PAKISTANY
O lier. India attacked Pakistan in 1965 and Pakistan defeated the Indian army in a very bad manner. When Indian attacked Sialkot at night with tanks, our brave Pakistani soliders lay down in front of those tanks with bombs on the chest. Indians are coward who attacked at night but also then tasted a bad defeat indeed.
Pakistan was a simple state at the time of independence, which got independence before India, (officially proved-contact Irfan Habib--Historian A.M.U) later was trapped in European plan that Pakistan should not be developed, So they supplied everything in Pakistan at very cheap rate. The engineers and doctors of Pakistan was giving services to UK, USA, other European countries after study in Pakistan.
Now Islamabad is developing as Industrial hub. Lets see if there will be a war then Pakistan will definite not develop but spoil their economy...So..Say no to war and bring investment and love to Pakistan...which is only possible through land development and security...Better Paki should do this...don't think about war both India and Pakistan are nuke power so..there will be no war....just hoax and barking from both side...what common public want from both side...love, fraternity, brotherhood and a good combined society....Thanks
OMG OMG plz ask ur grandfather what happened in 1948 & 1965 im 100% sure he will remain quite india should be at 666
I think there grandfather will start crying.LOLS
INDIAN R really loozers they lost 4 wars.
Mr.AHEMD u can also ask u r father and grandfather about kargil war when we kick on u r backs and get out from our boundry and am 200% sure they will remain quite becouse PAKISATNIS ARE GREAT LOSER
Mr.AHEMD u can also ask u r father and grandfather about kargil war when we kick on u r backs and get out from our boundry and am 200% sure they will remain quite becouse PAKISATNIS ARE GREAT LOSER and u also misguide the innocent kasmiris, but don't forget we r INDIANS and we always dominate in every war.
Hi. kid u can also ask u r father and grandfather about kargil war when we kick on u r backs and get out from our boundry and am 200% sure they will remain quite becouse PAKISATNIS ARE GREAT LOSER and u also misguide the innocent kasmiris, but don't forget we r INDIANS and we always dominate in every war.
@ Rohit Ladhar: Ya... we misguide the poor innocent Kashmiris and you (Indians) brutally kill them and have been doing so for the past 63 years! Congrats! Indian Army is the Best(Looser)!
P.S. If anyone from your family or friends are in Indian Army, went to Kargil and lived to tell the tale... ask them, how Pakistani Army put bullet holes in their fleeing arses!
hey u pak's u idiots say that we lost wars against u we showed u lot of proofs that we defeated u i even asked everyone in my house they gave a positive answer that Pakistan retreated even my uncle was a general he also said that pak's lost even after this u do not believe that we won you gave a large debate without even a singal proof that your country won the wars then how the heck can u say that u won wars aganist us u mental i want the PROOF of how u idiots could defeat us but i do not want any Pakistani id as a proof
PAKISTAN LOSERS ! SEE THIS HOW YOU LOST WAR OF 1947,1965,1971 http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)
m_c_m plz understand i am supporting india u have mistaken me plz read my comment properly my comment is given for pakistani suckers
@Ankash: Bro I have given reply to AHMAD (especially to gr8 f**** nabeel & khan) above. Said about the looses of PAK army in the past wars. The link above is for, how and when they got failed all in shot and perfect way. PAKISTAN is great war losers and how come they even categorized under real army. I have posted Various links and the perfect proof of indian Success (Not from Pakistani or Indian sites, mainly UK,US etc). Then I dont understand how these si*gf*gs came in conclusion that they won, Pak defended well but lost cent percent.
Indian Army is the third most powerful army in the world Even China fears alot. Are pakistan kis khet ki muli hai jo khud America ke aid pe jee raha hai. World knows better.
shut up man you pakistanis don't know anything so please keep your mouth shut and one last thing you are on tenth and we are on fourth so shut your mouth and keep quiet
Man i think u better need some search, Kargil was in control of Pakistan's Army, when you Prime minister begs from UN to solve that issue, and ask Pakistan to bring back there Army.. while Pakistan's army coming back to there borders Indian coward attack them from behind.. unless if your PM not begs from UN, Kashmir was now on the map of Pakistan.. u stupid sh*t..
HI LOSER first of all u can clear ur facts
1 U r cowerd army first enter in our boder
2 we cannot ask UN to solve this problem
3 U R cowerd gen.. trembeld to see indian power and get back thier steups
4 u stupid cheaters u cannot defeat us in even dreams becouse u r already beg u r BREAD AND BUTTER from u s a , china and also from us
LOL! You dont have bread and butter to support yourselves..... And you beg the beggers in Russia to fill your coffers!
LMAO!
Talk about Mega Crap! The Indian Way!
shut up suc*ers we asked un to stop the war so that there is no unnecessary bloodshed & pak's economy falling due to loss u r fighter-cocks we stay quite for all the crimes u have done but u do not just because u fighth losing wars & we try to stop bloodshed u say we are cowards to fight wars noways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kashmir belongs to us! and u fight war for a state which does not belong to you!!
All Above Paki Su*krs: http://terrorism.freeservers.com/kargil.html
Above gives you details How u loose kargil and death toll rate for pakistanies are so high. Cowards ran by sh*t*n all around, but 2700 and more got fried up.
hello this kinda backstabbin wont run in our veins....its completely found in ur genes...and wat did u say...u retreated after UN's interfernce...?? how true...world knows.....u just backed off due to the terror tat Indian army imposed on u.......
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
hello brother pak people is almost mussilim but not understand u.every day bomb blast.because reason from terrerisom. who is terror he is mussilim[pakistan] when he came.he came from pakistan. but india is verry largest demacracy country. but your country----- verry bad &mad country because d'nt understand inur army and government.
plz don't think all are fools as u,as usual u people Infiltrated into kargil and got what they deserved, the real taste of Indian army.pak govt. didn't even accepted the bodies of their war hero's.they said they were kashmir freedom fighters but Indian army gave them a soldier's burial .just remind that ,in 1971 about 90000 pak soldier's were surrendered before Indian army and Indian army left them unharmed,the most merciful act by any army in the world
I LIKE INDIAN ARMY IS MUCH IS AFGHAN NATIONAL ARMY BEACASE WE ARE BROTHER
WE SHOULD HELP EACH OTHER IN HARD TIME .
@Saad Abbasi Your are right brother Indian army is a loser and they will never accept that they are loser.
Pakistan Army wons gold medal in Cambrian Patrol Exercise so who is the best Pakistan Army the best and toughest army in the world is Pakistan Army.
I like India.. but what i know as a citizen of US, and what i heard in US, Pakistan army is the world power full army, thats what i heard from US leaders. and (Pakistan Army wons gold medal in Cambrian Patrol Exercise.. Cambrian Patrol organised in United Kingdom aimed to arrange training of military teams establishment across the world)... so they PROVE they not just talk infect they are best..
R u reaL US citizen.. or jus a fake. i found the language is lik British accent commonly used @ Asian side. nice disguise. Try to be clever than ny one? huh?
Which al Us leaders? Pakistan army may be powerful for real cheat. From my point of view Pak taliban is getting support from them. They are fighting against US. If US find a way in we can squeeze these f****. But till now Pakistan havnt accepted. I think US army there with these Pakistan at afghan is in danger. Cambrian Patrol- some one else also mentioned this in this forum.
@ Brown:
While brainwashing is an unethical affair (often promoted by various govts and their propaganda machines), buffoonery is outrageous.
If we (Pakistanis) are supporting the Taliban…. Then why are the Talibans killing us every day? If (according to your preposterous presumptions) our military, govt and intelligence agencies are “in bed” with the terrorists, then why are western militaries and diplomats increasingly reliant on Pakistani support? Are they so stupid, so low in basic I.Q that they do not realize this simple basic fact. Why in the world would Pakistan loose countless civilians and military personnel (more than the ones lost by U.S and NATO allies combined) to fight these terrorist bastards? Just to get ridiculed by a looser who loves to punch sh*t on the P.C and doesn’t know jack!
U all ppl pls watch loose change and obama deception followed by arrivals pls for god sake we all are loose change and we are conditioned to talk agains each other,india against pak vis a vis,pak against taliban that wat we are learning and its all game by few ppl pls find the truth @ upper level this army big and strong are the loose change which big people spend to conquer our land and mind
@ Nabeel: Brown says the truth! Pak politicians are against Taliban(mainly to keep shits out of pakistan face and also to avoid another Iraq or Afghanistan). Pak terrorist army and ISI is with Taliban. Army need to keep a equilibrium to save the face of pakistan in front of world nations. This cause a great threat to civilians and politicians from terrorist atrocities, mean while Pak army and ISI share bed with them in darkness. Conclusion: how long they can stay on stand on two boats? :D
Your not American.. What kind of language is that? Here in the USA we speak English (or Spanish Lol you'd have to be American to get it) But not that..whatever..your speaking.
While on the topic...I feel both Paks and Indians should work together for the common goal of prosperity. Not just dog each other on 'Who won the war'. Take a quick look at US History for a second. America fought its first war against Britain, who so happens to be one of our top allies. Anywhere the US goes..Britain goes. We got each others backs. After all, Britain is our mother country. We no longer even think about how we once hated the Red Coats (England) and the Brits no longer call us tyrants. Its only know through our history classes in school. We now only work together, along with France, our oldest ally, who helped us beat the English, and the rest of the west.
So quit bitchin' about who won! Really! Who cares! Its all History! Move forward!
Oh and by the way... if your still wondering who has the #1 army in the world? View the article above. Yes, it says the USA has the top army. And that is by a long shot.
india can kiss my ***
the pakistani destroyed them three times over there history
if india think their so cool why dont they just conquer pakistan.
they cant cos they to chicken
Destroyed us three times!!1 I don't think so we are still surviving with a vibrant economy and set to become a future superpower, I feel pity for you pakis , i really do.
oh blake , "india can kiss my ***"
little changes, 2 letters, instead of ki'ss' - ki'ck'..... :) you deserve that. We invade and done already in 1965. But, that time and now we don't waana bunch of shits in our country with crackers and Chinese artillery roaming around and attacks innocents. Also Pakistan is now bombing themselves in the name to kill terrorists, like Fire up the home to kill the rats. Enjoy!
the reason is because we indians feel pity on u people your whole country is suffering from poverty and all u do is spend all your money in training some stupid shit who call themselves as fighters....
pakistanis are heros and indians are loosers.
total mistake in ur phrase.... Faizan....
insane fellow !!!!
@Gaurav
Pakistan is going to kick India's A*s again n again...
We have Allah who supports us.. Our army is more then 500000 n u know what, single soldier of our army can kill 100 Indian A*s suckers...So u need to increase your fuc*ing Army to fight with Pak Army... We are gonna hit you so hard that you have never thought of... Just keep in mind that we are Muslims who don't fear of death... Every Muslim has a dream to fight for his mother land, to give his soul n body for this cause... Stay away from Pak Army otherwise we ll make all your males to she-males..
"males to shemales".. hahaha you are doing it in ur country, in Muslims. While 100 of ur men gathered then only 75 of it (coz of sunnath 25% cut down! ) will be there. And you are talking about converting males to shemales! like that? haha
Sorry for Inconvenience, the gr8 converter 'hanan akhtar' made me to comment so.
Hanan please avoid this type of stupid imagination 1=100 and godly power etc.
As you said U people are not afraid of death, ohh that is y always the death rate for pakies are always thrice than Indians, and failed in 1948(countless pakies),
1965(4000 pakies):http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)
1971(10000 pakies):http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)
&
kargil(2700 pakies):http://terrorism.freeservers.com/kargil.html
Enough? You can search and make it damn sure that this is Truth. Please dont refer .pk also .in understand you religious insane.
guys.....just b patient.....let deed talk for us.....life is all but changes...let d warmongers drum up war cries as and when dey will...we just need to b steadfast....we re no more in poor PAKISTAN'S LEAGUE....we got bigger problems on our hands....so plzz let them please themselves with their efferverence SELF-DENIAL...while we work on wht we ve embarked upon.... CHINA,though an adversary is a model worth following...to talk less and work more towards our own goal rather thn talkin too much without fructifyin anything...GOOD THT THEY BELIEVE IN ALLAH...SO DO IN JESUS..SO DO MANY HINDUS IN THEIR VARIOUS GOODS...USING ALLAH AS A SHEILD IN EVERY DEFENCE OF URS IS NOTHIN BUT COWARDICE....WE DONT SWEAR JESUS EVERYTIME THERES A POINT TO MAKE....HOW MUCH U BELIEVE IN ALLAH WE KNOW OF THT...SO STOP BRAGGIN...GO TO MOSQUES AND U SEE BOMBINGS..ANYONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF A FOLLOWER OF ALLAH ULDNT BOMB THOSE JUST COMIN OUT AFTER OFFERIN NAMAJ....U TEACH OF US ALLAH....GO AND BRAIN WASH SOMEONE IN AFRICA....LEARN SOMETHING FROM CHINESE..TO TALK LESS AND WORK MORE.....PLZZ STOP THESE SELF BRAGGIN...URGE INDIANS TO STOP POSTIN COMMENTS FOR THESE USELESS AND JOBLESS PAKIS WHO GOT NOTHING OTHER THN WAR TO TALK OF.......wait till god gives a report card..which he always does....and none has to brag ever....
Here is some numbers for ya. In Iraq, the USA lost 4,408 soldiers. Iraq lost over 26,000. That's close to a 7-1 death rate. In Afgan., the USA has lost 1900 ish soldiers. The Taliban death toll is around 40,000. That's as close to 'godly power' as your gonna get. Oh yeah, and you can put Osama on that list too. How come the US comes in undetected, kills Osama, and the Paks didn't even know he was there? Odd to say the least. Is the USA that good? Maybe. Probably. Yes!
true that
last battle was won by us....we pakistani are proud of our nation and our soldiers...Indian are at number#4....but its not true....indian soldier are scared of us.......Pakistan zindabad
I haven't heard a battle called "Last battle" may be in your dreams.
u dreamin.....?? ter's no war u won against MY INDIA
Ya your right India's army realy is int that that strong but they still should be ranked something like number 7.
oe you mother fuc*er india never beat pakistan your army is just like rat in front of our army
fu*k up you dirty scab peice of sh*t!
yes we defeat india many times we r the best
pakistan army world's best army....well china is our best frnd beside india is begging frm russia and america too give them protection frm pakistan... evry one know that
Indian army cant defeat PAKISTAN ARMY even in thier dreams.
Becoz we defeated u many times in real
i just need a simple answer... is it true Indians eat cow shit and urine .... just wana improve my General Knowledge .... thanks
For your kind information that Pakistan have won the wars of 1945 , 1965 , And in 1975 Pakistan lost the war because of Bengali,s that they get against of Pakistan because of that mad Bhutto and even India could not won the war of 1965 , where India used the 2nd most tanks used ever in a war after USA.Indian army is too weak that they couldn't get won in their bad plans,even Pakistan captured much place of India which was returned on order of United nations but India is till too silly that he doesn't opens the water of Pakistan in River ravi and other rivers.it means that India is not honest to obey the agreements between India and Pakistan that he will not block water of Pakistan.
dear gaurav ijust go to wikileaks where u would find the worth of indian army and pak army as well so donot aggsegrate you army
Dream on. Pakistan won both 1948 when we took one-third of kashmir from you bhangee indians and now call it AZAD Kashmir. And in 1965 when we defeated your large army and sent it back packing. LOL.
hey gurav. india beat paksitan just one time. n paksitan as well as. pakistan beat india in 1965.
2nd think Pakistan take mess always that country who is larger then pakistan bt India is sissy,
see history man. paksitan beated india one time n india also
What makes u think that.....u forgot how many double agents u have in RAW.......not yet reported in ISI.........1965 first battle indian army went on to back foot.......1999 war in kashmir indian army needed help of USA to stop pakistan army by asking Clinton........stop thinking you guys are some kind of super hero....you guys are not invincible if yes do some thing about ur "BHAI culture" and "Shiv sena"
Pakistan has an army of 500,000 active troops and a airforce stronger than India but India has an stronger infantry and ground forces and Pakistan can crush the Indian air power by using its modern tech jet fighters so technically India cannot defeat Pakistan and Pakistan can kick India's ass.
Dear Pakistan beat India in 1948,1968 and 1999.
SALUTE TO PAK ARMY.
INDIAN ARMY NEED TRAINING Because They Dont know How to Fire LOL
actually pakistan beat india twice and india won once so yeah
You guys my great grandfather was in world war 2 and it was a tie betweeen Pakistan and India. It does not matter who is the winner or loser. Also," I did not say INDIANS ARE ASSHOLES." iNDIA AND PAKISTAN ARE BOTH GREAT COUNTRIES. So let's stop fighting Pakistan and India are a tie in war. And plus it does not matter who wins or looses it matters that who is the good side.
GOOD BY MY FRIENDS!
gaurav u rami pakistan won 1965 but india won 1971 by cheating lol!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm with all those Indians who're saying that they respect our nation, but they can't tolerate that we disrespect their nation. I am, myself a Pakistani. But quarrel was first started by an Indian named Gaurav when he said, "india defeated pakistan twice even u guys say u can defeat any1". We didn't start disrespecting your nation first, but one your nation-member disrespected our nation first. He didn't need to say that.
PAK ARMY WAS SLEEPING WHEN USA LIFT AWAY LADEN FROM THEIR PAW.
pak army best army ,this report and rank is totally a fool ,,,,,,pakistan army is definitely top of the indian fool army ,,,,,darpook indian army ,,,,,,,,,,can u forget kargil ???//that u peoples requesting to un to stop the war '''''''pakistan conquered ur area bt after un signal it is withdra'''''''there is no competion with pak army u cant imagine it ;;;;dear
Pakistan won both wars. hey post correct information. you cannot change the history. and now Pakistan is more powerful than india in technology of weapons and in nuclear power. Pakitsani soldiers are very brave and have great dignity
LIAR GO TO HELL
Gaurav india can,t defeat pakistan ,whole kafir world sporting india , in all battles .you see pakistanies , after returns america from Afganistan ,
All indians to see the link below and open ur eyes.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TIS5CL223FBCCG617
India got bulsh*t on face by pak army in 1965 and they lost more ground and suffered worst casualities even with soviet and us aid it lost 117 aircrafts
yes we can defeat anyone
i just wanted to tell the @#$%^& indians (especially mac ) that you says that Pakistanis are beggars. india is begging for the money from Asia bank.what would you say about that . we kick your as in 1965 in Lahore (becone) and in ther desert and also in chawinda (the battle of tanks) we Pakistanis kick the ass your soldiers and blow the tanks like balloons.and why don't you let the khasmir's make thier own choice.why are you killing them.is this because they are Muslims. just reply that mac.
pakistan and india have fought 3 battles frist in 1965 which was owned by pakistan second battle 1971 which was owned by india with the help of bangladesh and 3 battle in 1999 which was only a fight and no one won
Sory India never defeted pakistan
shut up dont you know the history, PAKistan won in both the wars you looser,dont try to be over-smart.idiot,duffers.
We all have to accept the fact neither Pakistan nor India is the best in the world... why don't we spend our words in describing best in trade, helping people there common interest to show world we are best neighbor in the world.... instead of killing and huge spending on weapons.
Are you fkn kidding me ?
indian army is best in the world
haha.....you are in a sweet dream. indian army is the best loser army in the world. beacuse you have forth time grater then army in nubers and arms in against pakistan.but you did not get a single covensing victory against pakistan.
in 1965 we won and we capture a large land of kashmir.
in 1971 you cheat us with bangladesh and played diplomatic game. and now we are stonger then you in missiles technology and nuclear tecnology. so wake up and think in deepen.
we are peace loving nation of pakistan we dont want war & terror angainst any one but who will try to attack our country we will fight aginst him and we know art of winning.
Lol stop ur blunders.Plzz atleast chekout 8 std text books.Evn a child know who won the indo pak war of 1965 &1971. pakistan is interested only in terrorism.India secured a gr8 victory ovr pak both in 1965 and in 1971. it is a fact and u must admit it.Its only bcos of the cease fire by uno that v lost some territories.othr wise v wud hav taken it bak.India is a fast developing country and no 1 can stop us. pak wil not defeat ind evn in the future bcos v hav a large army 2 resist u.v need only 1/4 of our army 2 defeat u. America is supporting pak bcos they want 2 extinct terrorism in afganistan. pak is getting dstroyed day by day. most of the nations r supporting ind fr its permnent membership in uno.The day is nt so far fr ind 2 get its deserving position in uno.ind is tolerating pak frm 1947 0nwards and whn the limit breaks there bgins the countdown for the end of pak.ind is the largest democratic country in the world and v alwas giv more priority 2 the decisions of our citizens. ve hav an excellent president and prime minister.TRY 2 MEMMORISE THIS "EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST". JAIHIND.
You dont "lose" YOUR OWN territories in United Nations' cease fires... (This isn't Treaty of Versailles). you loose them in war!
Is this what you learn at school. No wonder you people are so twisted and backward;
Perhaps... You should show your "text-books" to the world leaders who were actually congratulating Pakistan on successfully defending its border in 1965... Perhaps these "ill-informed" world-leaders can learn something about Indian syllabi, bigotry and hypocrisy...
Till then, keep on dreaimg...
what did you say its impossible idot you are saing pakistan is better a you i think you are the biggest fool in the wrold.Common wakeup India is better than pakiistan in missile,tecnology wealth you people are terriosts.
@ sanskar: Your Indian missiles fall right on top of your heads! Google "FAiled Indian Missile Tests" and find out for yourself!
As far as terrorism is concerned.... the whole world knows what Indian army and govt. has been doing in Kashmir for the past 63 years. You people are dispicable!
Mr. Wasem frist of all u can clear u r facts .U know Indians r reach on u r cheast in Lahore and block u r neck And in kargil we push on u r backs and put out you are army from our border
well said brO..! i second you..!
heck no it isnt the U.S is and always will be
Thats why it's defense budget is getting less year by year.
Go get em Tiger!
dude check ur facts...go online and look into any neutral site such as wikipedia...india won major areas in 1965 n 1945 before cease fire...look there u ll find d casualties and area won...n in kargil war too see d casualties..ours is a professional army..pak army doesnt even hv d courage to say dat they were paki toops in kargil...we gave them a proper burial here..whereas ur army doesnt even follow geneva conventions..they gave back our 3 pows in mutiliated conditon
Ok "DUDE".....
1- Wikipedia is not a neutral source of information. Its a "play ground" for bloggers like yourself to twist facts and post bogus info. To be precise nothing related to "India" is trustable on Wikipedia.... thanks to Indian Bloggers and the "Edit" feature!
2- There was no war in 1945, becuase you never got independence. India and Pakistan became independent from the British in 1947. So how can there be a war in 1945 between India and Pakistan when there was no India and Pakistan! Please do get your facts straight!
3- LOL! Have you even read Genevea Convention or know s**t about it? Is it the same convention you follow while comitting atrocitties against Kashmiri citizens...? Either United Nation Reports are all wrong.... or you are God Damn Liar! Choose wisely!
please have a look at the links before talking about Kashmir.
1)by USA newspaper:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/05/AR2010040500195.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Atrocities-of-Pakistan-s-m-by-Abdus-Sattar-Ghaza-100417-726.html
2)http://www.hrw.org/asia/pakistan
Military coups are frequent in Pakistan. It seems Pak Army is more interested in administration rather than defence.
Even US does not trust you. They refused to give you the control of drones to bomb your own territory.
Ok. So Mithun.... What you really are saying is that becuase Pakistan army is fighting against terrorists and militant groups, it is perfectly fine for the Indian army to continue killing innocent civilians and for India to continue state-sponsered-terrorism.... maybe for another 60 years..... You think thats logical?
What was the purpose of these twisted links really? Was it to tell the world about Pakistan's problems or hide your own shame? I can come up with tons of such articles on India..... But we really are discussing Indian military defeats and atrocitties here. Shall we leave it to that... or would you want more....?
"Trust" is not a factor to be noticed here among top army. Which is why not even U.S allies trust its military and Indians...... well nobody trusts Indians anyways.
This isn't a forum for democracy vs. dictatorship.... You must be on the wrong forum
ya thats good im with this
Dude a day will come when INdian soldier will come before you, and on seeing him you will (as always) run for cover , and at that time he will put his rifle in your arse and shoot you.
@KK: till that day... keep on dreaming!
Hey kid, why dont you go get a decent job instead of frying your little used brain on this debate.
Hey there gramps!
Sorry to disappoint you but besides Lots of unemployed Indians and (even more) Retired Geezers (such as yourself), I feel like the only "employed" person with a descent job who does discussion on online forums as a favourite pass-time activity!
Have a nice day Ol' fart!
@nab You cant trust Indian army or any other , terrorists cant. U pakies are talking about Genevea Convention. Wat a joke!!!!!!! . Killing your own Innocent people in SWAT (lot of videos in you tube, I have posted in this forum). Killing people all over the world, by ur militants who was created by ISI and your Army. Showing as*s at any one telling the truth.
@ MC: listening to all this b******t for the past 4 months from an unemployed, poor, illiterate Indian who himself has been suffering under repressive Indian regimes (notable for state-sponsored-terrorism and extremely poor human-rights record) for the past 63 years; I realize that some of the things that you say do sound right. After all, you might have had first-hand experience back home in India.
@nab: from past 4 months me also seeing the song of lies, including prasing about ur filthy Pakistan and army of religions insanes. I feel u r a ol'fart pakistani history teacher, with sh*ts in head and words Zero in technical matters, who wont come out of ur closet to knew ur real country :) . U r saying about ur human rights record.. so pathetic. Blasphemy laws and sentence death even for women (a christian). Is dat al u got ? Shahbaz Bhatti- pak minister who told the truth got slaughtered http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/8942070/militants-say-killed-pakistani-minister-for-blasphemy/ . Shame on u sig*figs !
I am not sure, how issues with minorities come into play in Indian war losses.... Oh well... If thats what MCM(Mega Crap Maker) wants.... here goes:
http://www.religiouswatch.com/thread00296_hindus_vs_christians.htm
http://www.sholajawid.org/english/whatsnew/india_hindu200409.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/15494-violence-east-india.html
@ nabeel: haha u got better information and news from pakistan sites (eg .PK). U idiot we don't have time to read your shi*tin media's news. Really matter is your media had filled sh*ts in your head!
And you r in wrong place to dispose that.
@Nabeel
In 1945 there was a Muslim league rebellion which was suppressed by the then British Indian govt. I guess "jammu Kashmir" has mistaken it to a war.
Anyway I have read almost all your comments and you claim that Pakistan had won all the wars with India and it was always India which started a war.
I did some research and found out some interesting things, why is there a rivalry between India and Pakistan and what were the results. Now this is a chocolate, eat it if you can.
1947:
Pakistan attacked Kashmir which was then a princely state and the prince with and intention to secure the stable future of his people joined Kashmir to India and the document of evidence is the "Agreement to Accession". India responded by pushing the Pakistani invaders. It is true that India invited UN for a settlement but the UN split the Kashmir state into two and drew the Line of control. The battle is believed to won by India as Pakistan was the major sufferer but in reality the battle was a draw with considerable victories on both sides.
1965:
Pakistan started the operation Gibraltar by sending in forces to Jammu and Kashmir. It is like in the height of winter both Pakistan and India removes forces at many inhospitable places in the mountain ranges.Pakistani leaders believed that India, which was still recovering from the disastrous Sino-Indian War, would be unable to deal with a military thrust and a Kashmiri rebellion. India reacted and launched a counter offensive on Pakistan. Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam in reply , invading India's Chamb-Jaurian sector. In retaliation, the India's Army launched a major offensive throughout its border with Pakistan, with Lahore as its prime target.the Indian Army met with success in the northern sector. After launching prolonged artillery barrages against Pakistan, India was able to capture three important mountain positions in Kashmir. the Indian Army had made considerable in-roads into Pakistan. India had its largest haul of Pakistani tanks when the offensive of Pakistan's 1st Armoured Division was blunted at the Battle of Asal Uttar, which took place near Khemkaran. The biggest tank battle of the war was of the Battle of Chawinda, the largest tank battle in history after World War II. Pakistan's defeat at the battle of Assal Uttar hastened the end of the conflict. India lost 3500 soldiers and 175 tanks and Pakistan lost 3800 soldiers and 190 tanks and 100 tanks were captured by India. When Pakistan had lost almost all its defenses India could have easily taken over Lahore and Islamabad but due to internal political factors in India and pressure from the United States and the UN, made India to stop the army's movement. Pakistan was forced to sign the Tashkent agreement stating that Pakistan had lost the war and would move back the pre-war positions.
1971:
An independence movement broke out in East Pakistan which was brutally crushed by Pakistani forces. Due to large-scale atrocities against them, thousands of Bengalis took refuge in neighboring India causing a major refugee crisis here. In early 1971, India declared its full-support for the Bengali rebels, known as Mukti Bahini, and Indian agents were extensively involved in covert operations to aid them.
India won the battle by. Pakistan lost over 200 tanks, more than 9000 soldiers and 40 aircrafts compared to India which lost only 200 men, 80 tanks and 26 aircrafts. over 90,000 Pakistani military personals were taken as war prisoners by India and the independent state of Bangladesh was created. Again Pakistan had to sign the Simla Agreement to avoid further attacks from India.
Siachen conflict 1984:
launched Operation Meghdoot in April 1984. The entire Kumaon Regiment of the Indian Army was airlifted to the glacier. Pakistani forces responded quickly and clashes between the two followed. Indian Army secured the strategic Sia La and Bilafond La mountain passes and by 1985, more than 1,000 square miles (2,600 km2) of territory, 'claimed' by Pakistan, was under Indian control. The Indian Army continues to control all of the Siachen Glacier and its tributary glaciers. Pakistan made several unsuccessful attempts to regain control over Siachen. In late 1987, Pakistan mobilized about 8,000 troops and garrisoned them near Khapalu, aiming to capture Bilafond La. However, they were repulsed by Indian Army personnel guarding Bilafond. During the battle, about 23 Indian soldiers lost their lives while more than 150 Pakistani troops perished. Further unsuccessful attempts to reclaim positions were launched by Pakistan in 1990, 1995, 1996 and 1999, most notably in Kargil that year.
India continues to maintain a strong military presence in the region despite extremely inhospitable conditions. The conflict over Siachen is regularly cited as an example of mountain warfare.
Kargil 1999:
Pakistani paramilitary forces and Kashmiri insurgents captured deserted, but strategic, Himalayan heights in the Kargil district of India. These had been vacated by the Indian army during the onset of the inhospitable winter and were supposed to reoccupied in spring. The regular Pakistani troops who took control of these areas received important support, both in the form of arms and supplies, from Pakistan. Some of the heights under their control, which also included the Tiger Hill, overlooked the vital Srinagar-Leh Highway (NH 1A), Batalik and Dras.
the Indian Army quickly mobilized about 200,000 troops and Operation Vijay (1999)|Operation Meghdoot]] was launched. However, since the heights were under Pakistani control, India was in a clear strategic disadvantage. From their observation posts, the Pakistani forces had a clear line-of-sight to lay down indirect artillery fire on NH 1A, inflicting heavy casualties on the Indians. This was a serious problem for the Indian Army as the highway was its main logistical and supply route. Thus, the Indian Army's first priority was to recapture peaks that were in the immediate vicinity of NH1a. This resulted in Indian troops first targeting the Tiger Hill and Tololing complex in Dras. This was soon followed by more attacks on the Batalik-Turtok sub-sector which provided access to Siachen Glacier. Point 4590, which had the nearest view of the NH1a, was successfully recaptured by Indian forces.
In many vital points, neither artillery nor air power could dislodge the outposts manned by the Pakistan soldiers, who were out of visible range. The Indian Army mounted some direct frontal ground assaults which were slow and took a heavy toll given the steep ascent that had to be made on peaks as high as 18,000 feet (5,500 m). Two months into the conflict, Indian troops had slowly retaken most of the ridges they had lost;according to official count, an estimated 75%–80% of the intruded area and nearly all high ground was back under Indian control.
The Indian Army launched its final attacks, as soon as the Drass subsector had been cleared of Pakistani forces the war ended.India resumed control of all the territories lost.
nearly 527 Indian soldiers were killed and 700 Pakistani personal and 3000 Mujahideen fighters were killed.
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watch the Pakistani media reports and Interviews you will know better.
I'l give you link to one of such Pakistani media records, you can find much more on the web.
the truth of India pakistan war: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exAlTqrfRa4&feature=autoplay&list=PLA7606AC300D1230C&lf=results_video&playnext=3"
pakistan can never win a war against India: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WotQngKDJbU&feature=autoplay&list=PLA7606AC300D1230C&lf=results_video&playnext=2"
Now learn the real fact and then comment.
I don't call Pakistan as sitting ducks, you are a powerful nation but don't make false claims that " Pakistan won wars on against India and kicked Indian asses and India is no match to Pakistan" and such other stuff. there has never been a history where India has yielded to Pakistan ever. Pakistan needs India to keep its economy growing and India needs Pakistan as a friendly neighbor.
no army can match what pak army did in swat, it is the only army in world, that did, what compelete NATO couldnot do in Afghanistan for last dacade.
you will not have water supply if indians take dat decition after that your country will become a cold desert and your army will surely surrender so stop telling that pak has a great army
Ahem.... You forgot... you people have already tried that. Built damns and diverted water from all rivers flowing to Pakistan. Oh...Guess what we are still alive! Thanks partly to the discovery of enormous ground water reserves. Lame loosers!
also india was forced to return water by the U.N. because of the deaths of women and children. im sure if india tried that again the U.N. would not be to happy. so that was a FAILURE
Yet they have built more damns on our water supplies and diverted water from two of our rivers Jhelum and Chenab.
The Treaty signed under supervision of U.N and many other nations has actually been discarded by the Indians.
@njb We are doing as like feeding a venomous snake, to got bitten by it. What to do we are showing more and more mercy on These stupids.
Mercy..... You mean 4 wars, initiation of nuclear tests, relentless proaganda, media bashning, supporting terrorist organisations in Pakistan, 63-years of atrocities an unfair play!
Take your "Indian" Mercy and stick it to your arse!
yes 4 wars u got slaughtered out! :)
so feel it in ur arse!
plz do not forget that u people came to india destroyed our country & also took a part of my country in 1947 then why do u think u guys rock when u have done so many crimes indian army has some reasons why we killed some Sikhs biharis etc cause very some of them wanted independence & not whole state so we only shot the culprits &some curious innocent people by mistake so your country is a land where crimes are appreiciated
Perhaps.., the situation wud b different if we block the flow of glaciers at the north entering to India ., ur not providing us water.., these hills are in our territory and its the Indus treaty u stupid bugger..., try to do some research.., if we give u dat water ur suppose to return dat to us wid a 1:3 ratio..., it means 2/3 can b used by Indians..., but atleast give us our 1/3 bcz dis water is from our glaciers.. but India is know to violate laws specially when it comes to Pakistan...
India cannt. bt he is afraid to Pakistan.
wakeup..its time to go to toilet.......dream is over...
the PAK army cant even defeat terrorists hiding in its own mountains.... so how is it supposed to beat an entire army outside of its country?
I dont know.... perhaps you should ask the Indian Generals how we did that!
Our "success" against the terrorists has been better than both Americans and Nato forces so far.
Infact, US would surely have lost the operations, had it not been for the Pakistani help.
It takes some time to wipe out 4 decades old mess!
From which planet you are from? Even in single strategic operation, ur army haven't won. All u lose your targets and blaming politicians al the time, lik this we won in field and down at desk al the time. I cant understand. I have done a week end research. Only in pakistan blog telling that Pak won. International level in BBC, NYtimes all says the real truth od Indian Victory. U all are out of recovery.
On what basis you won in swat, jus a drama between ISI & pak army with militants.
You havent allowed a US troop to get there. U abandoned them to know the truth. They wont even trust u to gave controls of their drons.
WARNING: Lame Moron above!
ATTENTION: Arse Lover above!
U didnt even know that Osama was a kilometer from your capital. Either Paks army is that dumb or u supported him. Which is it? So your success is not from the help of the Americans or NATO? Think again.
you mean u beat ur own ppl cause terrorists are muslim
Alright Nabeel i have been reading your comments, you have a reply for anything an Indian person says but then if you think that Pakistan has a greater army why is Pakistan at no.10 and India at no.4
you people like you "nabeel" are full of Goats shit. disgrace to your country. what do you think of your self. Are you the @#$%$ general? you know nothing you people are shit. Pakistan is shit. You lost EVERY SINGLE WAR. if you fight us RIGHT now 2013 our Air force will rip the shit out and put it in your Hands and make you swallow it. Understood? you shit face.
everyday in pakistan more than 10 people are killed due to terrorism and pakistan army is busy in facebook chating and leaving comments..in that way yes pakistan is the best army..only army will remain the whole civilians will be dead by that time...take care pakistan..
The toughest battle in the world?? Pakistan wasn't a country when D-Day was fought!
I dont know which battle are you talking about.... Ofcourse Pakistan wasnt there on D Day, but we did defend against the Biggest Assault of tanks since World War 2 by the Indians on the Sialkot Border! And totally baffled the Indians!
check history and put comments..indian army left pakistan to live..thats y till date pakistani army is afraid of india and will send terrorist to india to make blasts which are getting flop....its not pakistani army its bin laden army....
u.s.a is the strongest we have defeat 4 army's combined together so w ei sstrong and the baddest
Yeah in your dreams only..in your dreams, it seems all pakis are schizophrenic.
I think on 1947 there was no war between Pakistan and India .Only partition.ON 1965 India atteck at Lahore.and we won that war .and on 1971 half india was under of Pakistan .....mad hindu pagal . hindu scard of muslim
What is this? Why isn't the U.S army number 1 X100? Because who was the country that won WWI & WWII, brought the Soviet Union down to its knees, technically never lost a war, and has only had 1 war with another country in our borders? THAT WOULD BE AMERICA BI*CHES!!!!
in 1965,u all know what i'm saying
pakistan has the army of terrorist
and terrorists r losser
@sakshi dis z d smallest but hardest comment for pakisthanis.
u ryt sakshi
toughest? i feel really pitty about u.
Pakistan Armay has Atom bomb we can destroy india and israil and anyone. Indai didnot win war with us 6th september 1965 we have won, and 1971 india and russia had interfer in our political matters.
we destroyed russia with amarica and afghanistan. we can fight indai anywhere in world
Yeah like a hundred, 100 kiloton bombs. Try 5,000 20 Megaton bombs from the US. That would rain on your parade for sure.
"PAK ARMY WON THE BARTTLE OF TOUGHEST ARMY IN THE WORLD" but hasn't won a single battle on INDIA. PAK is no match,...........just a mosquito.
go and read the history when indian army put a leg on pakistan army and crush them.
Pakistan Army SUCKS -- as proven by the attack on GHQ in Rawalpindi, OBL Op in Abbotabad, Mehran Base attack in Karachi! The last time they fought a major war (1971) they lost half of the country (today's Bangladesh) and 100,000+ soldiers surrendered. In the last of the smaller battles, they lost Kargil. The only thing they are good at is killing their own people (half the country is under attack by them) and conquering their own land (see the book "Military, Inc.}, e.g.)
:)
This is not true.
Indian army is the third best army in the world.
Pak has not won any war, even the "swat" ended with no effect on anyone. It was just a make over.
If Pakistan had won all the wars then practically Kashmir, Kargil, Tiger hill, Afghan borderlands, no man's land should have been under Pakistani control right. In-turn Pakistan has lost major territories like Siachen glacier to India. Use your common sense if you know what it means. Indian army was just 3 miles away from Lahore during the Siachen conflict, if the UN, China, USA hadn't interfered then it would have been a dooms day to all Pakistanis.
Every time pak starts a war with India and every time it as lost. Every time you loose at least 20% of its army and 80% of its economy, and in the Bangladesh war you lost 99000 personal compared to 200 personals of India's. spit on your own face.
India has an army 2.2 times as big as yours, our technology is 2 decades ahead of yours, the best fighter aircraft you have is a 3rd gen JF-17 and a 3.5 gen f-16 but we have Sukhoi-30, LCA-Tejas(4.5 gen), Jaguar, Harrier, Mig-31 and shortly we will have Sukhoi-32, DasaultrRaffal, Euro fighter Typhoon, Mg-35, our own indigenous PAK-FA and AMCA both are 5th gen and will be the world's best Aircraft better than USA's F-32 Rafter.
your tankers are outdated and rusted any repairs you will have to take it to your daddy China but we have indigenous tankers which are of world class quality.
your best nuclear weapon BA-BUR is slow as turtle and is made of stolen technology of USA's tomahawk and China's 4th nuclear test designs, we have our own inter continental ballistic missiles Prithvi- I, II, IIA, III, V, we also have world class Cruise missiles Agni-I, II, III, sudarshan, and the worlds only hyper-sonic cruise missile BRHAMOS, our pilots have out classed Pakistani, Russian, USA, UK pilots in the joint air-force exercise . Our navy is even supirior to Chinese navy, we have taken over the Chinese territory on the Vietnamese borders and China is helpless about it, they fear our submarines. Oh!I had forgotten, India destroyed Pakistan's only nuclear submarine in the Navel battle. We have 2 Nuclear submarines and we are building two more. By 2015 we will have more aircraft and Aircraft carriers than China.
Our defense budget is almost as much as your national budget.
you have invested 4 billion on nuclear research, and we have done more than 146 billion.
hee he he!!!!:)
your history books have been wrongly written due to military interests of false nationalism. I watched the DUNIYANEWS channel clips(its a Pakistani news channel) where your own politicians agree India's superiority over Pak.
This has been so for all the history. How on earth did you think that you even had a slightest chance of winning a war against the 4th most powerful army in the world.
first learn the spelling of battle then say about your country. an by the way india's army is 3. it was said on army day of india which is on 15th of january
bro get ur facts right. first of all, speaking of military terms, pakistan 'invaded' the india border and tried to capture tiger hill which was part of india, without any luck as both times india overtook pakistani forces and recapture tiger hill...within days...also if you still dont seem to agree about the ranking, appeal to ur common sense and just google 'top ten armies in the world' the results would be evident enough. secondly having said that i do not claim to spread any hatred i have as much respect for the 'people' of that country(pakistan) who have the better sense to not vent out their frustration on public forums than people like you. i am just stating military facts man that does not make any one country better than the other. so this goes out to all those prejudiced/bigot people on this forum 'ranting' for no rhyme or reason other than mere spite is just a way of making a fool of ur own self.
Do u know ur country is a greatest joke for world.U r not even able to feed urself.U r not even capable of controll ur own country...And u defeated evry war by Indians.U r d worst country of the world..If u want to rise up please look in to ur education system and fynancial condition first.Then make ur army strong.First try to be build a good faithfull nation then make it competative.
Dear..whcih battel? :) pak lost all battels
you realize who is the big dog at the top who is it AMERICA the number one fighting force
East or west,
pakistan is best,
firstly try to learn the spelling of battle & secondly Pakistan was gifted by India..
got that kid ha ha ha..
i head that u lost against indian Army three time,
Are you joking my son....... Firstly you have to be clear about what you are saying, Pakistan is 4 times defeated by India (1947,1962,1965,1999). And if you are trying to be advance then again INDIA is ready to Finish you.
Then there will be no name of Pakistan in the map of world.
Ok Beta Bye
And Be care full...........
Pakistan Army is the Best Army in the world. Pakistan Army is always ready to War.
yes pak is best n have lost 4 times war with india weldone u have no shy.........french army is best because it was captured by hitler german force easily n german easily defeated by british i think this is right order. bless ur self pakis u kept in 10 or else inreality u might be far behind than western power. so think before u post dont be joker
Yes ofcourse
Wrong , India won ...Pakistan surrendered and the other war's results were not revealed yet , pak lost every one of the wars ...the causalities were on the side of pak and minimum in Inida ... you pak can't even spell battle correctly
CH don't money to eat ur best in the world... Uneducated people of the world still live like Animals
Lol... pak army lost 4 battles from india..
1947 1965 1971 1999.....
one of the losers of the world :P
best loosers of the world.......!!!!
hey stupid,which battle r u saying???losing india thrice
haaaaa haaaa haaa
do you even know english ?
Paki's??? ok
Pakistan won against some of the toughest armies in the world?? you are speaking about Dhaka university girls? or referring about your cousins in Afghanistan? Or perhaps u mistakes alquida for pakistani army (indeed both are similar and hard to differentiate)
Pakistan Army is proved to be the Best taking a Gold medal in cambrian patrol UK.
Hello kid u r army is fail to dum u r own countrys demonstrte u think about gold medle REMBER THAT INDIAN IS BEST ....LOSSERS!!!..
You are right.... INDIANS ARE THE BEST ... LOOSERS!
Indians are Pegans, have stupid red dots on there foreheads, and are the retarded offspring of China and Pakistan so therefore are not superior to any country in anyway except population and land mass.
Bro Nabeel, if ur Pak Army is best then whats is the problem with ur army, that they can't take Kashmir from us.
you pakistani's are always sentimental.like mouses or i can say mosquitos who bites and runaway...you cant fight a war with any of the nation..you can provide terrorists or suicide bombers....you are cowards..........
Pakistan army always lives ALLAH help y.
@american : you say u r bst ???? oh wat a joke u stoled the script of our rocket n prepared atom bomb used it on japan hiroshima and nagasaki ..... u shud b ashamed of urslf to say dat bloody bitches n stealers !!!!!!! best stealers in the world
AND WHEN THE WAR HAPEN THEY SHIT IN THEIR PENTS AND RUN AWAY (PAK LOSSER)
Pakistan zindabad
@ Saqib: send ur army to any common wealth or Olympics games. :D
You (Indians) cant beat Pakistan in any war... so its abusolutley understandable that you want to try your luck in sports.....
losers talking about medal in cambrian patrol untrusted maniacs.. so u (porkitanies army) go for any sports for medals only.. haha
we won the world cup dude.....we kicked ur stinking as*es in cricket world cup...
Chup Chup Chup be……………
Chup Ho da…………
Hum indian k pass Rajnikant hai……………..
Sunny deol hai…………..
Pakistan k pass kaya hai ” kallaa”
The French army is flying their battle flag-a white eagle over a white background.
HAHAHA That cracks me up.
0French Army?what is that,maybe a white flag
you paks are crazy what did you say that it deafetead the strongest army why dont you say the army pakistan is th root of terriosts even in the blast on 26/11 pakistani terriosts attacked india but all the terrriost where killed how did paks say that it is more stronger than india and frist of all pakastin lost with 120 indian soldiers and pas where 4000
what did they say they will rule in sikkim,jodhpur and newdelhi none of thisewhere ruled.Mad pakistanis .
120 Indian soldiers.... 4000 Pakistani s0oldiers..... LOL! What do you think this is a holywood flick.... "300"!
Laughing my fu*ing arse off! :-D
You people are hopeless.... you defy all forms of logic and reasoning!
Besides.... you govt has failed to provide evidence of Pakistani govt/military involvement in the attack. despited repeated requests from both Pakistan and Interpol! Makes one believe if it wasn't another one of RAW
(Indian Intelligency Agency's) Orchestrated show to defame Pakistan for its own twisted purposes!
yeps 300..
340-4000 is the measure.. in shitty pedia as u said. Navas told the count after the kargil and blaming pak army and musharaff (musharaff says 370) :) ..
Musharraf must be mentioning the death count of Pakistani army as 370 in 1965 War..... Pakistnani Army had just overrun atleast 3 of Indian Provinces and many many cities.
Nobody bothered to count the number of dead in Indian Army. What a waste of time that would have been. It was just too many!
u stupid jus check this and do ur BLAH BLAH. great creepy peoples u r!!
http://terrorism.freeservers.com/kargil.html
see this and njoy how much butts(pakies) have fried up... more than 2700
You are just
1965 pak lost nearly 4000 troupes. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)
it was heavy and 80% ammunition fired up by pakistan while India fired 15%. So Pakistan accept Tashkent agreement with big loss of territory south east side of Pakistan, Russia helped Pakistan to sign it, else you were be conquered & slaves, but it happened in 1971. Njoy losers!
sAYING IS ANOTHER BUT DEALING WITH US IS TOUGH....PAKISTAN ARMY
yeps real slippery!! is it?
tell u army (pakistan ) if they r man then fight face to face ........then there is no need of evidence ......................
Nabeel just wait and watch, don't be overconfident on your pak army as u guys are losers.
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iF YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN BEAT TERRORISTS THEN GO AHEAD THEY WILL FU*K THE HELL OUT OF YOU.....BUT WE ARE NOT SCARED OF THEM....AND WILL FIGHT TERRORIST TILL DEATH...WE PAKISTANI....PROUD OF OUR NATION
We had already beaten the terrorists and also Mother of terrorism, Pakistan. At Bombay 9 pak f*krs have been killed and one had caught alive, which fled light in to your gay like terrorist nature. Even in all Wars you loose. Then how come you say that you won , and army to be ranked?
oh great...proud of wat...producin terrorists...??
The French army had already surrendered when they heard the list was being compiled
listen freaks everyone knows the I.R.A. is the greatest army that ever lived period.
Yes. This list is stupid and wrong. France shoulb be number 6 and Russia number 2. Russia have an reserve army at 21 million men.
Hey Attu! Don't you know the French don't have an army because they prefer fishing instead. Lol!
Because the french are a bunch of coward's. Like for example in WWII you guys gave up and who saved your sorry a*ses that right AMERICA!!
They ran away
the french surrender to every battle. France's flag should be completely white. hahaha, go usa
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This is throughout history and modern day. The french has not got a very big presence in today's modern warfare
The French Army was last seen fleeing for their lives in their usual retreat formation. The USA and Great Britain use the French if they need rapid transportation to the rear and have found that Frenchies make wonderful cooks and are experts at cleaning toilet facilities. What the hell would we do without those French cowards?
Americans are truly a rare breed. I LOVE it! Man, I love America! We RULE!!
French army is on of the strongest armies.
Their air force is awesome, navy excellent. wonder why its not on the list.
And I don't understand which fool put Russia on 8th rank, it must be on the 2ns. China is actually 3rd. USA, India, Turkey, North Korea are the only correct.
Pakistan is some where like 13th or 14th rank.
I guess the author of this blog has done a mess while putting up the ranks or may be he had boozed while creating the blog.
french always surrender, always pushed back. germans pushed them back in both WWI and WWII, why would they be top 10? they have only about 150,000 in modern numbers and not much special... the only time they were great was during napoleon's rule
Exactly my thought.
The french army is not very good.They lost to Germany in World War 2
american army is one of the sittest armies going shooting there own men fu*k off there not worthy to be first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have their tails between their legs and they are running for the boarder.
The French army was last seen running that way --------> waving their arms in the air!
French army as i suppose is better then the north Korea, Turkey, Israeli & Pakistan at least. attu i should agree to your point of authentication...likes!!!
d french army is guardin ur butt crack! :P hav a luk attu! :P
according to your data pakistani army has 500000 persons and israel has 100000 and germany has 200000 persons how can you say that pakistanis are not able to for five our six spot pakistani army has much fire power than india we have a great machinery we have all kind of technology for army soory! budy but you make your choice against your data
China has a Million or 1,000,000 men. one million disciplined angry men, who can survive in any condition.
Lol, you think the French are good fighters? There main weapon is a white flag.
The french have lost so many wars, dont even get me started. Yes I do believe they are better then one or two of these countries but they are not a force to be reckoned with, so stop being a bitch cause your angry your country sucks (in military at least) AMERICA!
as soon as i seen where russia was i could tell bs
France?
They have to be rescued every war they are in!
how r u ranking these armies? on what basis is the united states the best army?
on every basis... 28,000 air units... to dismantle any force in the air... best navy in the world... most well trained foot soldiers... and best technology.... are u a complete fool?
actualy the us military would be the best military our military has the stronges navey,strongest airforce, and infact we have so many nuclear subs. we have some doing reaserch in the polar regions, infacte (even though it dosnt matter)at one point the us had a state in it that if it reseaded from the us it would of had the 4th most powerfull military in the world, and off the top of my head the only war the us has lost is nam.
Ahhhhh ......wrong !! America won just because It joins the battle in the middle ..Like the battle b/w french and germany .ww II .....US joined in the middle .... tactics to win ??
Man, Rusia is like Turkey, North Corea, India, Germany and United Kingdom all together, how can it be behind them?
And where is France? They have atomic weapons and the only other country besides the US to have a tactical airplane carrier you know...
Russia is definitely to be ranked way ahead. Like 3rd place.
USA.... Bullshit.
They have lots of soldiers, lots of troops, tanks, Ok. however quantity is not important if you don't have skillfull soldiers and also commanders. but US soldiers doesn't know anything 'bout tactial war. I learned it when I was in army...
don't be a part of unfair information on internet. open your history books...
Best regards
Özgür.
The United States only trails behind China as far as the number in active military status. The defense budget for the United States far exceeds any other country in the world which also leads to the most equipment, aircraft, etc across most categories. In addition, the special operations units of the U.S. are ranked highly and are trained in unconventional warfare as well as urban warfare. They are used to train military units in other countries around the world.
Why you bringing down the greatest country in the history of the plant? not only by Military power are we the best but also in technology, music, science, intelligence, inventions and the list keeps on going.
What Army were you in? The Salvation Army?
@Özgür
Which is why your country does anything of note.
Turn on the news, history is happening right now with our military.
Your right! Your Army is History! LOL! You couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag! How many countries does this Army of yours currently have bases in?
RE: attu
French Army? LOL, this isn't a list most likely to surrender.
LOL! Exactly!
The USA has of course been chosen for its astonishing victory standing behind the French during the revolutionary war, managing to score a draw in 1812, staying quaking on the other side of the Atlantic for most of two world wars and losing the Korean and Vietnamese wars.
Go America!
Go somewhere!
The USA was a tiny army less than 20 years old when they defeated the English Empire and the helped french win their independence. 1812? See previous statement on Revolutionary war. Took Utah and Omaha beachheads at Normandy so that the English could have their tea. The USA also fought the Japanese Empire while also bailing Europe out against Hitler.
The US Military and our political system is very akin to the Roman Empire. I wonder if the final outcome will be the same?
lol...... u call the war of 1812 a draw 5000 british died total and 20000 americans died...... hardly a draw the US got raped and also the british torched the white house and several cities
HA HA HA...somebody said "where is the French Army" HA HA HA...omg, even if they had one they would just lose or give up anyway....lol....French Army...lol
Are you sure that the photo of the united Kingdom soldiers is genuine? What is their Regiment? they do not look British to me.
The British troops are in fact from the RAF Regiment (look at rank insignia and beret flash).
Thier dutch. Look at the crown on the cap badge.